Comments on: Hexagram 10 and the experience of divination

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Recent Faves Tagged With "ritual" : MyNetFaves — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:35:28 +0000

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By: Hilary

Hilary — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:07:50 +0000

Just spent an interesting few minutes writing down hexagram pairs and getting what you mean about ‘splitting the human position’. Interesting, thank you. Do you have a theory as to why there would be tiger-footprints around this?

If ‘guai’ is a specifically dui-thing, then you do have to wonder why it’s up at 10.5. But if it’s more of a qian+dui thing, then – well – you don’t. Not just splitting or opening, but deciding; not just a token to hold up or message to bring, but the power behind it that it represents.

(By the way, for anyone else puzzling over this: the ‘human position’ in a hexagram is at lines 3 and 4, sandwiched between lines for earth and heaven. In the hexagram pairs Scott refers to, lines 1,2,5 and 6 stay the same from one hexagram to the next, but 3 and 4 are changed.)

By: Scott Davis

Scott Davis — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 03:51:32 +0000

Yes, these comments are very evocative.
We know that “ritual” (li) is often defined as “conduct” (lyu, #10).
Why, I wonder, does #10.5 mention “guai”?
Guai (#43) is a really clear example of a “dui function” since it opens upwards at the top.
Lyu (#10) has an “inner dui.” In some ways, this is the gap that is opened when the human position in Qian (#1) is split. You know, the splitting of the human position is coordinated with the tiger throughout the Yi jing. Four pairs split only the human position when rotated: #9/10, #15/16, #21/22 and #47/48. The tiger appears three times in the Yi jing: identical to the splitting (#10); metaphorical or transformed to the splitting (#21–>#27); and metonymical or next to the splitting (#49).
The question, though, is why “guai” is mentioned at #10.5, rather than in the Dui trigram below?
Hope my question makes any sense?

By: Hilary

Hilary — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:34:51 +0000

Yes, definitely! And getting close to tigers.

That’s a great question to ask. Have you seen the Reading Circle Creativity and the Yi thread? Your reading would delight people there.

By: knot

knot — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:29:05 +0000

yes. It reminds me — once I asked the i ching to tell me or show me what deep creativity is, and I got this hexagram, unchanging. I think it’s just the kind of thing you talk about here: “being infused with something more than your ordinary self.”

By: Kevin

Kevin — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:54:17 +0000

Brilliant – This has me thinking – thanks