Comments on: Hexagram 5: Waiting and Intending http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/ Readings, insights and understanding from the I Ching, the oracle of Change. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:52:14 +0000 hourly 1 By: proserpine http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/comment-page-1/#comment-65384 proserpine Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:37:52 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/#comment-65384 Hello Hilary.Your birthday is Dec.7th then?I wish you an enlightening beautiful new year.i wasn't here for your birthday, but please accept my best wishes nopw, and thank for this site. I'm thinking you're probably correct when you said maybe you are/were "looking across that water,and focousing on what you're waiting for", and thinking about that place and time not now. :-) I find Waiting to be exactly that, so I also figure you may have moed on sinc eyou received this hexagram. but just for conversation, :-)I have always found #5 to concern itself/me with breathing, slowing down and givng time a chance. For example if I wanted an answer from you about somehting, but you had not even begun to think of it yet--had in fact, not even received my question maybe, or, you have, but something just this morning will change your perspective or awareness--then *waiting* refers also to those forces and events that are still taking place--so rushing or looking ahead isn't the best idea simply because I'll gain best by waiting for now. Simulataneaously, I also find when I'm nervous and worried that the old "be right here right now, or "one day at a time" adages help me to setle down and not concern myself with the future----future meaning tomorrow's meeting with a boss, or my fear or belief that next month I'll need to have found another apartment.it (to me) encourages, acceptance and meditation. So, these two meanings are often combined. Something will probably change before we get to whatever it is we are waiting for, and it will change our perspective. I know line 2 very well, and I know it can refer to people who gossip or, who can discourage me from this waiting, and gathering my strength. However,really it often can mean I am picking on myself,(gossiping about myself?-- you know old negative self-image, or self-destructive notions & ego concerns) and confusing my ability to wait, and relax while maintaining some healthy focus. I must come back in a while to better express this, but #63, would imply again, along with #5, that we musn't rush forward with the new idea--yet. And when we do, of course, as usual, we know that we can't assume the details will take care of themselves. but I'll come back.:-) Hello Hilary.Your birthday is Dec.7th then?I wish you an enlightening beautiful new year.i wasn’t here for your birthday, but please accept my best wishes nopw, and thank for this site.
I’m thinking you’re probably correct when you said maybe you are/were “looking across that water,and focousing on what you’re waiting for”, and thinking about that place and time not now. :-)
I find Waiting to be exactly that, so I also figure you may have moed on sinc eyou received this hexagram.
but just for conversation, :-) I have always found #5 to concern itself/me with breathing, slowing down and givng time a chance. For example if I wanted an answer from you about somehting, but you had not even begun to think of it yet–had in fact, not even received my question maybe, or, you have, but something just this morning will change your perspective or awareness–then *waiting* refers also to those forces and events that are still taking place–so rushing or looking ahead isn’t the best idea simply because I’ll gain best by waiting for now.
Simulataneaously, I also find when I’m nervous and worried that the old “be right here right now, or “one day at a time” adages help me to setle down and not concern myself with the future—-future meaning tomorrow’s meeting with a boss, or my fear or belief that next month I’ll need to have found another apartment.it (to me) encourages, acceptance and meditation.
So, these two meanings are often combined.
Something will probably change before we get to whatever it is we are waiting for, and it will change our perspective.
I know line 2 very well, and I know it can refer to people who gossip or, who can discourage me from this waiting, and gathering my strength.
However,really it often can mean I am picking on myself,(gossiping about myself?– you know old negative self-image, or self-destructive notions & ego concerns) and confusing my ability to wait, and relax while maintaining some healthy focus.
I must come back in a while to better express this, but #63, would imply again, along with #5, that we musn’t rush forward with the new idea–yet.
And when we do, of course, as usual, we know that we can’t assume the details will take care of themselves.
but I’ll come back.:-)

]]> By: Miakoda http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/comment-page-1/#comment-63281 Miakoda Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:47:58 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/#comment-63281 Luck is where preparation meets opportunity. Waiting now for opportunity to come.... Happy Birthday! Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.

Waiting now for opportunity to come….

Happy Birthday!

]]> By: Eric http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/comment-page-1/#comment-63260 Eric Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:24:59 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/#comment-63260 Sure, the sand isn't ideal, but it's good enough for a place to begin crossing. I think the only indication of difficulty here is the talk or words that have come from people who are not being helpful. If this can be brought to an end (completion) then the situation can turn for the better. Thanks again. Sure, the sand isn’t ideal, but it’s good enough for a place to begin crossing. I think the only indication of difficulty here is the talk or words that have come from people who are not being helpful. If this can be brought to an end (completion) then the situation can turn for the better.
Thanks again.

]]> By: Hilary http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/comment-page-1/#comment-63253 Hilary Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:32:10 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/#comment-63253 My feeling about waiting on sand is that it's <em>un</em>stable (yes, I know what you mean about line positions, but find I get more mileage from the original imagery): hard to keep my footing, and probably also hard to keep looking across the water and focussing on what I'm waiting for. <a href="http://ichingmeditations.blogspot.com/2007/12/hexagram-five-nine-in-second-place_02.html">Adele's image</a> strikes a chord, with the outlines slipping away. Hmm... completion means good fortune in the line, but chaos for those Already Across. That calls for some thought... My feeling about waiting on sand is that it’s unstable (yes, I know what you mean about line positions, but find I get more mileage from the original imagery): hard to keep my footing, and probably also hard to keep looking across the water and focussing on what I’m waiting for. Adele’s image strikes a chord, with the outlines slipping away.

Hmm… completion means good fortune in the line, but chaos for those Already Across. That calls for some thought…

]]> By: Eric http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/comment-page-1/#comment-63064 Eric Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:02:51 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/#comment-63064 Hello Hilary, I like the way the imagery comes together for this line - the idea of waiting in sand with the water just ahead and the relating hexagram with its associated idea of having come across. The second line is central so it is in a stable position, not really in a seriously difficult place like the situations depicted in lines three and four. Perhaps with a little help (not from the "small"!) getting across can be accomplished relatively easily. Thanks for sharing your reading. Hello Hilary,

I like the way the imagery comes together for this line – the idea of waiting in sand with the water just ahead and the relating hexagram with its associated idea of having come across. The second line is central so it is in a stable position, not really in a seriously difficult place like the situations depicted in lines three and four. Perhaps with a little help (not from the “small”!) getting across can be accomplished relatively easily.
Thanks for sharing your reading.

]]> By: Adele Aldridge http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/comment-page-1/#comment-63046 Adele Aldridge Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:48:19 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/#comment-63046 Happy Birthday Sagittarius! - I happened to look at your page here just now and was intrigued to see that you got "Waiting" for your answer. The last Hexagram I posted on my new blog (http://www.ichingmeditations.blogspot.com/) was my view of "Waiting." I always think of "Waiting" as to do with Fate. A friend of mine who is not into the I Ching looked at my blog, saw my interpretation of Waiting and said, "...it brings the essence of art and madness to life!" Well that's how she saw my drawings. I was simply using the imagery that is implied in the I Ching. Not thinking of madness. But maybe a lot of waiting can induce madness. :-) Oh well. Happy Birthday Sagittarius! – I happened to look at your page here just now and was intrigued to see that you got “Waiting” for your answer. The last Hexagram I posted on my new blog (http://www.ichingmeditations.blogspot.com/) was my view of “Waiting.” I always think of “Waiting” as to do with Fate.

A friend of mine who is not into the I Ching looked at my blog, saw my interpretation of Waiting and said, “…it brings the essence of art and madness to life!” Well that’s how she saw my drawings. I was simply using the imagery that is implied in the I Ching. Not thinking of madness. But maybe a lot of waiting can induce madness. :-) Oh well.

]]> By: Hilary http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/comment-page-1/#comment-62974 Hilary Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:33:31 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/#comment-62974 Thanks! Thanks!

]]> By: Topal http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/comment-page-1/#comment-62972 Topal Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:12:35 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/#comment-62972 Great post. I'm trying to navigate through the debris of this year and make plans for the next and I was thinking how can I change the focus in a subtle way. Just what I needed. Many Happy Returns. Great post. I’m trying to navigate through the debris of this year and make plans for the next and I was thinking how can I change the focus in a subtle way. Just what I needed.

Many Happy Returns.

]]> By: Luis Andrade http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/comment-page-1/#comment-62808 Luis Andrade Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:26:44 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/#comment-62808 Holy Cow!! No, not you; me... I completely forgot and I had it in my calendar to greet you... Sorry and belated Happy Birthday!!! :) Luis Holy Cow!! No, not you; me… I completely forgot and I had it in my calendar to greet you… Sorry and belated Happy Birthday!!! :)

Luis

]]> By: Andrea Hess|Empowered Soul http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/comment-page-1/#comment-62806 Andrea Hess|Empowered Soul Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:01:51 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/12/08/hexagram-5-waiting-and-intending/#comment-62806 Thanks so much for citing my article! I'm glad you found the perspective valuable. Happy Birthday, and I hope your year brings you all that you intend! Blessings, Andrea Thanks so much for citing my article! I’m glad you found the perspective valuable. Happy Birthday, and I hope your year brings you all that you intend!

Blessings,
Andrea

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