Comments on: The I Ching and the genetic code http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/ Readings, insights and understanding from the I Ching, the oracle of Change. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:33:30 +0000 By: John.C.Compton http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-75934 John.C.Compton Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:27:06 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-75934 October 28, 2008. The connections mentioned above, are not included in my book on the I Ching and the Genetic Code. However, the connection between the 8 trigrams and the corners of the cube were described in some detail by Z.D.Sung, in his book called "Symbols of the Yi King or the Symbols of the Chinese Logic of Changes" published by Paragon Reprint Corp. New York 1969. Originally published in Shanghai China in 1934. Refer to the following web site: http://www.weft.telinco.co.uk. October 28, 2008.

The connections mentioned above, are not included in my book on the I Ching and the Genetic Code.
However, the connection between the 8 trigrams and the corners of the cube were described in some detail by Z.D.Sung, in his book called “Symbols of the Yi King or the Symbols of the Chinese Logic of Changes” published by Paragon Reprint Corp. New York 1969.
Originally published in Shanghai China in 1934.
Refer to the following web site: http://www.weft.telinco.co.uk.

]]> By: F.O.R. http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-75893 F.O.R. Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:27:01 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-75893 This page details the connection between the 8 trigrams and the 8 corners of the cube: http://www.virtuescience.com/zzcube.html The 27 permutations can be transformed into the 64. Are these connections described in your book? This page details the connection between the 8 trigrams and the 8 corners of the cube:
http://www.virtuescience.com/zzcube.html
The 27 permutations can be transformed into the 64.

Are these connections described in your book?

]]> By: YourFormulaSheet http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-73706 YourFormulaSheet Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:16:09 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-73706 Hi there, I believe the genetic codes do connect to various elements -especially mathmetically and Pythagoras teaching. I have been working on such subject as well but I don't have much knowledge on historical connection or other people's work. I have some intuitive insights as I start to calculate the genetic charts. So far there is only language I map out with math but not quite sure what it can mean. The closet thing I discover online is Meru fundation; however, it was not the same to what I am aiming for in this area. If someone is interested, please visit the site at and perhaps we can open some communication on the blogs or something. I am welcome to all suggestions. http://www.yourformulasheet.com/Your-DNA-codes-meet-with-Pythagoras.htm Hi there,

I believe the genetic codes do connect to various elements -especially mathmetically and Pythagoras teaching.

I have been working on such subject as well but I don’t have much knowledge on historical connection or other people’s work. I have some intuitive insights as I start to calculate the genetic charts. So far there is only language I map out with math but not quite sure what it can mean. The closet thing I discover online is Meru fundation; however, it was not the same to what I am aiming for in this area.

If someone is interested, please visit the site at and perhaps we can open some communication on the blogs or something. I am welcome to all suggestions.

http://www.yourformulasheet.com/Your-DNA-codes-meet-with-Pythagoras.htm

]]> By: John C. Compton http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-59967 John C. Compton Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:50:01 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-59967 Dear David H. The I Ching is not just a book on divination.It incorporates many hidden secret codes which are symbolic and mathematical. If one transforms each hexagram into a numerical format, then these numerical values effectively represent the Genetic code for a single polynucleotide chain. I have proven this out in my book, which differs from other published works on this particular subject.It is not possible for me to explain this in a few words, as the research document is an indepth analysis of the I Ching and the Genetic code relationship. It is a completely new approach which, in my opinion, proves that the ancient scribes must have known the secrets of life. I have rediscovered the formalistic natural philosophy that sought to embrace the entire world of thought in a system of number symbols, as mentioned by Richard Wilhelm in his book on the I Ching. Dear David H.
The I Ching is not just a book on divination.It incorporates many hidden secret codes which are symbolic and mathematical. If one transforms each hexagram into a numerical format, then these numerical values effectively represent the Genetic code for a single polynucleotide chain. I have proven this out in my book, which differs from other published works on this particular subject.It is not possible for me to explain this in a few words, as the research document is an indepth analysis of the I Ching and the Genetic code relationship. It is a completely new approach which, in my opinion, proves that the ancient scribes must have known the secrets of life. I have rediscovered the formalistic natural philosophy that sought to embrace the entire world of thought in a system of number symbols, as mentioned by Richard Wilhelm in his book on the I Ching.

]]> By: David H. http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-59789 David H. Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:12:39 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-59789 This idea goes back some time with a lineage from the psychologist Carl Jung relating theories of synchronicity from the I Ching and properties of whole numbers as archetypes and then with Marie-Louis Von Franz continuing with Jung's studies setting the ground work for Martin Schonberger with his book "The I Ching and the Genetic Code: The hidden key to life" published in New York from 1979. I believe Schonberger started his notes on this around 1970. There is also a book that was published in 1994 by Katya Walter Ph.D. called "The Tao of Chaos" and she makes correlations on a molecular and an atomic level of the codons of DNA and RNA with the I Ching advancing theories of Schonberg with new ideas and correlations. I think there are a few other authors that have researched this correlation of the I Ching and the genetic code. I would be interested in hearing about your research and what you have found. This idea goes back some time with a lineage from the psychologist Carl Jung relating theories of synchronicity from the I Ching and properties of whole numbers as archetypes and then with Marie-Louis Von Franz continuing with Jung’s studies setting the ground work for Martin Schonberger with his book “The I Ching and the Genetic Code: The hidden key to life” published in New York from 1979. I believe Schonberger started his notes on this around 1970. There is also a book that was published in 1994 by Katya Walter Ph.D. called “The Tao of Chaos” and she makes correlations on a molecular and an atomic level of the codons of DNA and RNA with the I Ching advancing theories of Schonberg with new ideas and correlations. I think there are a few other authors that have researched this correlation of the I Ching and the genetic code. I would be interested in hearing about your research and what you have found.

]]> By: Anonymous http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-59677 Anonymous Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:04:20 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-59677 Hi Frank. let me explain, a trigram disk is a trigram cyclic sequence of eight trigrams arranged in a circular format.I created a 3 disk analytical model using the Earlier Heaven, Later Heaven and a Mandala arrangement. By cardinal compass point alignment(South at Noon) and selecting two trigrams from different disks over 900 hexagrams were obtained by permutation; placing one trigram over the other to create a hexagram. I also created a manual device which creates hexagrams from two reference and one programmable trigram arrangements in a repeatable and scientific mathematical manner. Summarizing the results, showed that there were 13 hexagrams unaccounted for. These are the anomalous hexagrams which were plotted and then super-imposed onto the sixty-four matrix grid called the "Key for identifying hexagrams". It is in fact a manual visual display board. Subsequently, by drawing lines between the "pixel "points (hexagrams) a pictographic image emerged. This image contained the irrational constants for Pi, e-epsilon and the golden section ratio. One square = 1 measured unit. By observation the pythagoras proposition was also found. With regard to the genetic code I have worked it out mathematically. The I Ching incorporates a Genetic Code arrangement. Each hexagram represents a polynucleotide chain which consist of 3 genetic codons. I hope this clarifies your points Kind Regards John Compton. For more details visit my website - ichingmaster.co.uk I will in due course place some details of my 2nd book on my web site. Hi Frank. let me explain, a trigram disk is a trigram cyclic sequence of eight trigrams arranged in a circular format.I created a 3 disk analytical model using the Earlier Heaven, Later Heaven and a Mandala arrangement. By cardinal compass point alignment(South at Noon) and selecting two trigrams from different disks over 900 hexagrams were obtained by permutation; placing one trigram over the other to create a hexagram. I also created a manual device which creates hexagrams from two reference and one programmable trigram arrangements in a repeatable and scientific mathematical manner. Summarizing the results, showed that there were 13 hexagrams unaccounted for. These are the anomalous hexagrams which were plotted and then super-imposed onto the sixty-four matrix grid called the “Key for identifying hexagrams”. It is in fact a manual visual display board. Subsequently, by drawing lines between the “pixel “points (hexagrams) a pictographic image emerged. This image contained the irrational constants for Pi, e-epsilon and the golden section ratio. One square = 1 measured unit. By observation the pythagoras proposition was also found. With regard to the genetic code I have worked it out mathematically. The I Ching incorporates a Genetic Code arrangement. Each hexagram represents a polynucleotide chain which consist of 3 genetic codons.
I hope this clarifies your points
Kind Regards
John Compton.
For more details visit my website - ichingmaster.co.uk
I will in due course place some details of my 2nd book on my web site.

]]> By: Hilary http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-59523 Hilary Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:15:20 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-59523 Thanks for the comment, Frank. I'll email John to tell him it's here. Thanks for the comment, Frank. I’ll email John to tell him it’s here.

]]> By: Frank R. Kegan http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-59519 Frank R. Kegan Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:25:21 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/10/10/the-i-ching-and-the-genetic-code/#comment-59519 I am intrigued by all these researchers, starting is Leibniz who look at the Yi and see their own research mirrored back at them. I must wonder though, looking at your website, what is the methodology of your conclusive proof the Yi is about DNA (does that mean you found nucleotide models in your disk images)? Is there any objective method to your proof, or like Freud do you assume that your research would not fit your beliefs completely if it weren't true and therefore, if it all fits to your exposition then it has been conclusively proved. I wonder since Freud also used that phrase ..."it has been conclusively proved" whenever challenged on a point he actually had only his own imagination as evidence. I am more intrigued by your finding Pythagorean mathematics in the Yi. I have also found that, only I have been content to find dice-face eidos and Tetraktys models. From my Pythagorean analysis of the Yi, it seems the sequence is well and fully explained from the simple meanings of the trigrams with the model being the exact match of the first set of 10 hexagrams to the water cycle in Tetraktys perspective of Pythagoras. My analysis requires only the fundamental Pythagorean eidos like on the dice-faces, though doesn't require ancient Chinese to have dice--the principles are universal and the hexagrams themselves could easily by the Chinese equivalents. But I wonder, how do you suppose the ancient Chinese managed the computer machinery required to generate your data and conclusions? Or do you assume they spun the disks you use and simply watched them so long and so hard they discovered these modern and ancient forms which caught their imagination (rather than the other various images such spinning disks would also show) since they fit your beliefs. I am intrigued by all these researchers, starting is Leibniz who look at the Yi and see their own research mirrored back at them. I must wonder though, looking at your website, what is the methodology of your conclusive proof the Yi is about DNA (does that mean you found nucleotide models in your disk images)?

Is there any objective method to your proof, or like Freud do you assume that your research would not fit your beliefs completely if it weren’t true and therefore, if it all fits to your exposition then it has been conclusively proved.

I wonder since Freud also used that phrase …”it has been conclusively proved” whenever challenged on a point he actually had only his own imagination as evidence.

I am more intrigued by your finding Pythagorean mathematics in the Yi. I have also found that, only I have been content to find dice-face eidos and Tetraktys models.

From my Pythagorean analysis of the Yi, it seems the sequence is well and fully explained from the simple meanings of the trigrams with the model being the exact match of the first set of 10 hexagrams to the water cycle in Tetraktys perspective of Pythagoras.

My analysis requires only the fundamental Pythagorean eidos like on the dice-faces, though doesn’t require ancient Chinese to have dice–the principles are universal and the hexagrams themselves could easily by the Chinese equivalents.
But I wonder, how do you suppose the ancient Chinese managed the computer machinery required to generate your data and conclusions?
Or do you assume they spun the disks you use and simply watched them so long and so hard they discovered these modern and ancient forms which caught their imagination (rather than the other various images such spinning disks would also show) since they fit your beliefs.

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