Comments on: On the threshold of Progress http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/05/25/on-the-threshold-of-progress/ Readings, insights and understanding from the I Ching, the oracle of Change. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:23:31 +0000 By: Hilary http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/05/25/on-the-threshold-of-progress/#comment-48655 Hilary Mon, 28 May 2007 15:02:39 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/05/25/on-the-threshold-of-progress/#comment-48655 Hi Veronica, Yes, that's right, you look at any changing lines to determine the second hexagram. You can count heads as 2 and tails as 3 or vice versa, it doesn't matter. But your source has the 6s and 9s backwards. Moving <strong>yang</strong> lines are 9 (and turn into yin in the second hexagram). Moving <strong>yin</strong> lines are 6 (they turn into yang in the second hexagram. So if for your first line you threw three coins and they landed head, head, head, you would get 2+2+2 = 6. That's a moving yin line: yin in the first hexagram, yang in the second one. <a href="http://onlineclarity.co.uk/practical_I_Ching/casting.html">Read this page</a> for the lines represented by all the different values your three coins could add up to - 6, 7, 8 or 9. As for 43 moving to 60, that would depend on what action you had in mind for the day! If you wander over to the <a href="http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends">I Ching Community</a> and post your question and a bit more info, you'll get some good-quality help. Let me know if you have any problems signing up for an account. Hi Veronica,

Yes, that’s right, you look at any changing lines to determine the second hexagram.

You can count heads as 2 and tails as 3 or vice versa, it doesn’t matter.

But your source has the 6s and 9s backwards. Moving yang lines are 9 (and turn into yin in the second hexagram). Moving yin lines are 6 (they turn into yang in the second hexagram.

So if for your first line you threw three coins and they landed head, head, head, you would get 2+2+2 = 6. That’s a moving yin line: yin in the first hexagram, yang in the second one.

Read this page for the lines represented by all the different values your three coins could add up to - 6, 7, 8 or 9.

As for 43 moving to 60, that would depend on what action you had in mind for the day! If you wander over to the I Ching Community and post your question and a bit more info, you’ll get some good-quality help. Let me know if you have any problems signing up for an account.

]]> By: Veronica http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/05/25/on-the-threshold-of-progress/#comment-48653 Veronica Mon, 28 May 2007 14:48:52 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/05/25/on-the-threshold-of-progress/#comment-48653 Hi Hilary, I'm Veronica, and I'm the one who's blind. I'm using the IChing and today I've been finding myself very confused! When you look at the first hexagram, do you look at the changing lines (if there are any) to determine the second hexagram? I've learned there are coins, the heads are two and tails are counted as three. Then I've read that yang lines are 6 and yin are 9. So witch is right? I've been doing the heads counted as 2 and the tails as 3 method. Us tgat technically correct? Anyway, today I draw a hexagram for my day and have received hexagram 43 with lines4 and 6 changing. Any help would be appreciated. My question was: What action would be possible for me to take today? All the best, Veronica Harrison Hi Hilary,
I’m Veronica, and I’m the one who’s blind. I’m using the IChing and today I’ve been finding myself very confused!
When you look at the first hexagram, do you look at the changing lines (if there are any) to determine the second hexagram? I’ve learned there are coins, the heads are two and tails are counted as three. Then I’ve read that yang lines are 6 and yin are 9. So witch is right?
I’ve been doing the heads counted as 2 and the tails as 3 method. Us tgat technically correct?
Anyway, today I draw a hexagram for my day and have received hexagram 43 with lines4 and 6 changing. Any help would be appreciated. My question was: What action would be possible for me to take today?
All the best,
Veronica Harrison

]]> By: Luis Andrade http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/05/25/on-the-threshold-of-progress/#comment-48420 Luis Andrade Fri, 25 May 2007 16:02:12 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/05/25/on-the-threshold-of-progress/#comment-48420 Thanks for the link! Interesting. I was just checking your link to wang3 and my dictionaries. Yes indeed, one of the meanings is 'net'. Curiously, the character also means "to deceive, negative, libel, etc.". Perhaps the association of 'net', within the context of, and together with the other meanings, is geared towards "entrapment"... L Thanks for the link! Interesting. I was just checking your link to wang3 and my dictionaries. Yes indeed, one of the meanings is ‘net’. Curiously, the character also means “to deceive, negative, libel, etc.”. Perhaps the association of ‘net’, within the context of, and together with the other meanings, is geared towards “entrapment”…

L

]]> By: Hilary http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/05/25/on-the-threshold-of-progress/#comment-48416 Hilary Fri, 25 May 2007 14:24:31 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/05/25/on-the-threshold-of-progress/#comment-48416 Hadn't thought of the connection with li. Thanks. But there is a definite net in the <a href="http://www.internationalscientific.org/CharacterASP/CharacterEtymology.aspx?characterInput=%E7%BD%94">character.</a> Hadn’t thought of the connection with li. Thanks. But there is a definite net in the character.

]]> By: Luis Andrade http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/05/25/on-the-threshold-of-progress/#comment-48414 Luis Andrade Fri, 25 May 2007 14:08:01 +0000 http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2007/05/25/on-the-threshold-of-progress/#comment-48414 I just wonder... Couldn't the "net" reference be coming from the imagery of the upper trigram (even if it is mentioned in line 1)? "Net" references are usually associated with Li and perhaps Karcher liked the imagery and used it in his interpretation. As for the Yi looping back to 35 in the second consultation, ah, that's priceless... Luis I just wonder… Couldn’t the “net” reference be coming from the imagery of the upper trigram (even if it is mentioned in line 1)? “Net” references are usually associated with Li and perhaps Karcher liked the imagery and used it in his interpretation.

As for the Yi looping back to 35 in the second consultation, ah, that’s priceless…

Luis

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