Comments on: The Image of Hexagram 62

By: Allan Lian

Allan Lian — Sun, 14 Aug 2005 16:22:44 +0000

Everyone including Stephen Karcher is taking potshots and still wide of the mark. It goes to show that not too many Yi students or experts like to ponder deeply into the Yi. However with sufficient divinatory experiences hopefully they may still come to understand the real meaning behind Hexagram 62.

While you may like to make more guesses, the answer is in the message.

By: chris lofting

chris lofting — Sun, 14 Aug 2005 01:49:51 +0000

As an actualisation of a potential, using the wave perspective and so summing lines gives us a superposition, a ‘chord’, the two yang lines reflect characteristics derivable from summing the generic characteristics of hexagrams 15 and 16. (in that 15 ‘rules’ 3, 16 ‘rules’ 4 - where all other lines in 62 are in potential energy states, not actualised states. )

Thus we have the sense of keeping words close to the facts (15), modesty, levelling-out, but also the use of foresight and associated enthusiasm (16) - a focus on dealing with the future.

Combine these descriptions with the ’skeletal’ form of 62, described by analogy to hex 30, and so a generic focus on issues of guidance and direction-setting, and a general ‘meaning’ emerges.

The ‘excess’ is in the 16 element - the enthusiasm factor etc (with devotion to another/others comes awareness/enlightenment) - the ‘facts’ are in the reality of loss etc.

As line pairs so we can map-in a dynamic BETWEEN the nature of 15 and the nature of 16.

By: Togan Muftuoglu

Togan Muftuoglu — Sat, 13 Aug 2005 18:05:26 +0000

Hi,

For those who are quoting lines from I-Ching, I think it would be more beneficiary if you would provide citation as well, rather than having the reader to figure out which translation was that and which edition are they talking about.

Anyway, this hexagram is interesting one as first of all as everything is in the wrong place ( Yin to be inside is normal, yet here we have Yang) Yang lines which mean movement are not able to move freely as the Yin lines are blocking them.

Mountain is restraining, limiting and stopping while thunder is active free, movement. So there is tension and restrictive movement here. The overall is excess Yin. So weakness does not allow big results. One must pay attention to details.

The image of the hexagram also looks like the bird which the Judgement and Yao lines mention flying. The yin lines are the wings and the Yang lines are the body.

By: chris lofting

chris lofting — Sat, 13 Aug 2005 04:32:58 +0000

From the universal focus, 62 shares space with 56 and the general focus on issues of loyalty. (mountain base is of contractive bonding, sharing space with another/others ‘in here’ etc - trigram read “with self-restraint comes awareness”

62 covers unconditional loyalty in its use to focus on traditions to aid in keeping a collective together even if past its ‘best before’ date. - so you could pick up the ‘vibe’ re burial rituals etc (and the vibe of loyalty past the ‘best before’ date allows for consideration of the ‘death’ of the collective UNLESS traditions are used to put off that ‘death’.

The skeletal form of 62 is 30 - and so the focus on guidance and direction-setting (concerns with ideology) is the ’soul’ if you like of 62.

56 is more conditional, covering ‘loyalty at a distance’ etc.

Chris.